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6L80E info

With the Gen4 engine swaps we use a GM 6l80E 6 speed automatic transmission. A transfer case adapter allows us to use the stock Jeep JK 241J transfer case. The Rubicon transfer case will not work because no one that we know of makes a 32 spline input shaft for it. 

The 6L80 features a generously deep first gear for an automatic, making for favorably powerful starts from a standing stop. It also features two overdrive gears. The gearing spread is a very capable 6.04, with ratios in each gear as follows: compared to your stock JK auto transmission you can see a 6L80e has a much better 1st and second gear along with 2 overdrives.
First: 4.02, JK 3.00
Second: 2.36, JK 1.67
Third: 1.53, JK 1.00
Fourth: 1.15, JK .75
Fifth: .085, 
Sixth: 0.67, 
Reverse: 3.06 JK 3.00

The 6L80 has a maximum RPM limit of 6500 RPM.

Maximum engine power: "555 bhp ( 414 kW )"

Maximum engine torque: "550 lb-ft ( 746 Nm )"

The 6L90 transmission is slightly longer and taller than a comparable configuration 6L80 due to it's beefier internals. GM states, ". It is a heavy-duty version of the 6L80 six-speed automatic, with a strengthened input gearset which has two additional pinion gears for six total, and a strengthened output gearset, that uses wider gears than the 6L80. The 6L90 flexibilty extends to the clutches where the 6L90 has one more clutch plate than the 6L80 in each clutch for heavy duty applications. " 

The 6L90 case is about 1.4" (35mm) longer than the 6L80 case.

Our electronics and adapters will support a 6L80e or 6L90e but with a 6L90e you may need to modify the trans bracket to accommodate the extra length and verify what output shaft spline count you have. Most 4wd 6L90Es have 29 splines and the 2wd version have a larger 36 spline. CAUTION...at this time no one makes and adapter for the 36 spline shaft so steer clear of all 2wd 6L90Es. Be sure to order the correct input adapter to match your trans.  Driveshaft modifications are a must.

AWD/4WD Transmission-bellhousing to end of output shaft (bellhousing to end of case)
4L70: 26.875" (22.25")
6L80: 27.125" (23.3")
6L90: 28.625" (24.7")
4L80: 29" (26")

6L80 weight
Transmission weight:258mm converter: Wet: 94-96kg ( 207-211lb )
Transmission weight:300mm converter: Wet: 102-104kg ( 225-229lb )

6L90 weight
Transmission weight: w/ 300mm converter
Wet: 109kg ( 240lb ) estimated

4L60 weight
Wet: 74 - 88.5 kg (163.2 - 195.0 lb)

4L80 weight
Wet: 115 kg (254 lb)

The Engine Control Modules (ECM) that communicates with the 6L80/90 Transmission Control Module (TCM) is programmed to only recognize Gen IV LSx engines. Specifically the 58X crankshaft reluctor ring, the 4x cam shaft sprocket. The pre-2007 model year Gen III and Gen IV motors (LS2 Corvette notwithstanding) operate with a 24x crankshaft reluctor ring, a 1x camshaft sprocket are not compatible with this transmission.


Our kits offer fully functional TAP shift capabilities allowing you to fully control your shifts along with TOW HAUL mode utilizing your factory buttons. No adding a toggle switch or modifying your shifter. 
Your PRNDL display will indicate the correct chosen gear 1,2,3,4,5,6 right on your factory dash. This makes it very easy to tell what gear you have selected. 
This transmission is truly the unsung hero of the LS swap. Silky smooth shifts and very generous overdrives allow for less gearing and better fuel mileage. No more hunting for gears every time you come to a hill.

 

 

 

Here are my thoughts on gearing and tire size. The 6L80E has much better gearing compared to the stock JK trans. 1st gear is much lower and it has 2 overdrives. Offroad you will be fine with the stock 241J transfer case and whatever gear you choose. The super low 1st gear will give you all you need in 4 low.   Highway driving is what you need to be thinking about.
 
My personal Jeep 2011 JKU 6.2 around 500HP and 6L80E. Bumpers, winch all the usual stuff. 37" MTRs and 4.56 gears.
With 4.56 gears and 37's it does great on the highway and runs around 1900 rpm @ 70MPH it will hold 6th gear and chug over most hills without even downshifting.  Granted I have more power than most but I have ran 5.3s and stock 6.2s in this jeep with the same gearing and tire size and it always did well.
 
We just finished up a 10JKU 6.2 430HP 37's 4.56 gears. It did very well and would run 80 MPH all day long without breaking a sweat or dropping out of 6th gear.
 
A 5.3 in a big heavy JK may struggle a little bit holding 6th gear as it doesn't have as much torque as the 6.2 but with proper transmission programing it will drop to 5th, pick up about 400 rpm's and pull over most hills without straining. 
We usually like to run the 5.3's with a little more gear if you don't have access to a good transmission tuner.
 
Transmission tuning is key here guys. The calibration that is in the trans computer is set up for the factory vehicle it was pulled from. Everything they do is geared towards a stock vehicle with light tires and crappy gearing. All they care about is smooth shifts, fuel economy and preserving the transmission from warranty claims. If you just drop in the trans without tuning it will drive and shift no problem. But it won't be anywhere near calibrated for the big heavy Jeep, tires size or gear ratio that your running. They will usually shift up too fast, downshift way to aggressively and be general mushy. We have spent a lot of time and effort making real world calibrations for these swaps and the improvements are truly night and day. 
 
Fuel mileage was our first goal and by calibrating the transmission we were able to see pretty significant gains.
 
Second was highway manners. You have plenty of power now so lets use it. The stock calibration would kick out of 6th way to easy. we rework the shift schedule and allow you to use the torque of the engine to float over hills and maintain speeds without it kicking down and pulling high rpm's. Again this gained us fuel mileage and made it a pleasure to drive.
 
Third we worked on shift feel. We reworked the shift times and pressure onsets. This allows us to "tune" the trans feel to the weight of the vehicle. We can make if have a firm shift or an all out bark the tires "shift kit" feel. Personal preference here guys, you want bark the tires and snap necks? it can be done.  We can even base the shift pressure on throttle position so you can have a nice smooth shift at light throttle and a hard aggressive shift at wide open throttle. 
 
Forth we work on the shift schedule and shift points. This allows us to calibrate when and where it will shift. We allow it to build a little more speed before it shifts and make the lower speed downshifts a little more aggressive. While this may hurt fuel economy a bit it makes the Jeep feel like it has more power and is much more fun to drive. 
 
Fifth we work on the TOW Haul mode. When in tow haul mode you have a separate shift schedule and we can tailer it to whatever you want. If you pull a camper or boat, we will set it up for max towing. If you want to play race car driver on the backroads we can do that too. Personally I have mine set to race car. It will REV match downshift coming into the corners like a Corvette and sounds freaking awesome. 
 
Sixth we set up the 4WD Low shift pattern. This allows us to make a dedicated offroad shift schedule. This is useful when offroad and would be tailored to how you wheel.  We even can add in a 2nd gear start for slick conditions like mud, sand and snow.
 
I crunched the numbers to show you guys what tire size and gear ratio would be with a 6L80E. These are all a 70MPH and probably within 25rpms depending on how good my math is.
 
 6L08E....4.56...................4.88........................5.13..................RPM @ 70MPH
.......6th.........5th........6th........5th...........6th.........5th 
35"..2050......2600......2200.....2800........2300.......2950
37"..1950......2450......2100.....2650........2200.......2800
40"..1800......2300......1925.....2450........2000.......2600
 
 
Remember the faster you spin the engine the more heat it makes and fuel mileage will go down. If you spin it too slow you will be under the power curve and constantly having to downshift which will suck to drive and will suck fuel also. 
 
I feel that the sweet spot for 5.3's is between 1900 and 2200 rpm's
The sweet spot for 6.2's is 1700 and 2000 rpm's
The sweet spot for 6.0's is 1600 and 1900 rpm's 
Of coarse all of this will depend on your Jeep and driving style.  I light 2 door that drives primary on the highway won't need to spin the engine near as fast as a big heavy 4 door.

If you don't spend a lot of time on the highway you can get away with running more gear.

 

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